![]() I think this thread belongs here, but if not feel free to move it to Live Sound. I still have a ton of music in my head that needs to be recorded, I am hoping to kill two birds with one stone.Ĭan I have some users of both or either weigh in on these programs? What do you use and why? What suite does which tasks better or more intuitively? This project is not the only reason I want to upgrade. My criteria is that it must be a good recording package, not merely a live looping application. If you want to, make a case for alternate software. The idea is to improv loops on the fly and build songs with addition and subtraction.Ībleton apparently is user friendly on stage, and Logic has a module called MainStage that is supposed to be performance oriented as well. He can play drums and keys while I play bass, keys and trumpet. I'm aware that there are other low cost solutions like reaper and so on, but I don't want to be limited by lack of plugins.Ī drummer friend of mine wants to experiment with some live dubstep/DJ stuff. ![]() ![]() I think that these three programs seem to get the most love around here. The next step is to move up to a more powerful DAW, and that brings ProTools, Logic and Ableton Live onto my radar. Nice program, and I managed to do some nice work with it, but I'm beginning to run up against things that I can't do. If you want to make music by juggling red and green apples, you could use a webcam and Max to do that for you.So I think I am ready to leave Garage Band behind. Max is a development environment/language to create your own instruments and controllers. Mainstage is very flexible as long as what you want to do is possible if you want to do really whacky stuff, Mainstage might not cut it and Ableton might be able to do it for you, especially with extensions like Max-for-Live which integrate the Max environment into Live. So you can integrate Ableton into Mainstage, but Apple makes it pretty much impossible to integrate Mainstage into any other music application. However, Ableton is more like a new way of making/remixing music on the fly, not simply an instrument. Mainstage is more like a very flexible extension to an existing (master) keyboard you can almost 'draw' your interface and customize it to work just they way you want it and it functions as a kind of hub that is controlling all your (software) instruments.Ībleton can do a lot of the same things as Mainstage, but not as flexible and certainly not with Mainstage's nice interface (once you get it set up). You'd probably use Mainstage and Ableton in different situations. I could post a bit of a howto on setting up Ableton with Mainstage.Įighty8 wrote:I am about to get my hands on Abelton live version today and will begin to set it up and play with it this weekend ! It seems most guys like the Abelton live for most situations. If you use a controller in Ableton to trigger beat repeater or whatever, you do need to set that up before you start Mainstage. Then you have to do some setup in Mainstage (some weird incantations, just like in Logic) after which you can see your channels in Ableton in Mainstage and use them as if their regular channels in Mainstage. So you'd start Ableton (you do not need to configure MIDI and audio interfaces, as MIDI/audio will be communicated via Rewire between Ableton and Mainstage) and then start Mainstage. Mainstage live concret in windows laptops. Mainstage is a lot more visual, and Ableton tends to have a lot more hidden. You always start the Rewire slave first and then the master application (a running Rewire-capable application automatically becomes a slave when a new master starts). Is Ableton live better than MainStage Ableton is a fully functioning DAW, while Mainstage Is really meant more for live performance. Mainstage (and Logic) can only run as a Rewire master (curse you Apple!) so if you want to integrate something else via Rewire, it needs to run as a slave. Ableton and Reason can function both as a Rewire master and a slave, so you could have Reason control Ableton or the other way around. is automatically sent between both applications. A Rewire master controls a Rewire slave and audio, control information, MIDI clock, etc. The guys from Propellorhead software, who also make Reason, came up with it. Rewire is a software protocol that allows music applications to control each other. Mainstage itself only supports AU plugins (Ableton does both AU and VST), but via Ableton you can also use VST plugins in Mainstage. If you do this, can you can use plugins running in Ableton as if they were running in Mainstage. Eighty8 wrote:So you have no problem running mainstage in conjunction with Abelton live then ? In the manner which you described?īit of extra info: you need to run Mainstage as a Rewire master and Ableton as a Rewire slave.
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